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Tim Frau
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Naresh Nichani
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Seth
We have added an Application Setting for this in the latest build of the v21 Client, available via direct download: https://downloads.d-tools.com/si/v21/SIClient.exe
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curt.hayes
Seth Found the new setting, switched to "No" and tested. Looks good...TY for the quick response on this!!!
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Jabon Dix
Seth This will help us save a lot of time! Thank you for the quick turn around!
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Erick Burton
Thank you Seth!!
Bill Sahm
Seth, Thank you!
Seth
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Matt Rogers
i prefer it makes far more sense than decimal
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Erick Burton
What a mess.
This alongside the 2x huge mess created by splitting labor from phase. I'm sure some big integrator has basically turned the D-Tools engineers into 'outsourced platform development' for themselves.
Could we at least get the planned changes like this added to the roadmap where we have a chance to look at them and comment? It's a pretty awful surprise to log in and find out that the platform has changed our workflow (Again) without notice.
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Matt Rogers
Erick Burtona do you not look at the release notes before upgrading?
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Ben Stiegler
Matt Rogersthey are not always easy to decipher, and by the time there are RNs, its too late if a feature has been "added" to the benefit of some, and the detriment of others ...
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Matt Rogers
Ben Stiegler by your logic no features should be added and software should move forward. I read the release notes talk to d-tools or have a testing environment so we know 100% what it’s going to affect rather than blindly updating and then moaning about it after
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Ben Stiegler
Matt Rogers that's not at all what i was saying. I'm suggesting earlier meaningful involvement in the "is dev doing what users want or need?" conversation. Our situations may be slightly different. We are a small boutique shop. DT is just one of many ever-evolving complex software environments we must keep up with (Q-SYS, Shure Designer, Control4 + a zillion integrations, etc.) Its 10,000x more cost effective to align a feature or fix a bug at design specs time than it is once it hits the field -- and code tends to be more maintainable (so lower lifecycle cost to devs) when this is done. I recommend The Mythical Man-Month by Fred Brooks. He learned a thing or 2, being the project manager for IBM's OS/360 back when I was a wee lad.
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Brad Stich
Interesting. Yes, this has been tricky and more time consuming to enter or adjust due to it being three fields. It's my understanding that this format aligns more with the timecard import, but not sure how it helps yet.
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Mike Beebe
Not sure why we would ever need Hours/Minutes/Seconds... please make this optional! It only needs to be in quarter-hour increments.
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Jabon Dix
This is urgently needed! Using hours/minuntes/seconds should be optional!
With how often we do this, It is very time consuming converting to hrs/min/sec every time we put time into D-tools, and then convert it back to decimal again when we put it into our other systems like payroll.
It also slows things down entering data into 3 fields instead of just 1.
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Andy Frazier
When tabbing through editable fields (cost, markup) the new labor format does not allow for the Backspace key, instead it returns the user back to previous screen. Also Edits to the new hour/minute labor fields require extra mouse click verification before accepting new values - this makes the project susceptible to Labor errors.
Please revert to back to decimal, and perhaps allow decimal to be calculated from values entered in fraction format such as "35/60".
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